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For those of you who missed, or couldn't receive BBC's 'North West Tonight' last night, Friday, watch this http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-11122015 and go to about 09:16 on the time slide but be quick as it expires at 7:00pm tonight, Saturday.

It's of 'Flying Scotsman' undergoing her overhaul at Riley & Sons Ltd in Bury. She is in wartime black with 'NE' on the tender, '502' on her cabside and '60103' on her boiler door.

Very interesting to see for the content.

Disgustingly poor standards of English from the BBC as usual these days. It isn't a train, it's a locomotive! Their reporter wasn't stood on the footplate, he was standing!

Kestel, thanks for posting this, not sure how much chance we will get of seeing her dowf souf (ITV pronounciation), it's good to see her coming together. The Beeb also highlighted the use of apprentices which is good to see. I thought I read that the dividing partition in the Riley works had been taken down, or is it imminent, where is he moving to? When it is out and running on the main line it looks like it is going to have some frequent useage. What else is coming back or is recently back, Lizzy, Braunton, Royal Scot, GW King

Hi

The only one I know is back is Royal Scot. I photographed her on the Severn Valley line.

Riley Enginnering - well according to the Web the partition wall in the ELR works is coming down on new years day, but another site says that the ceremonial tearing down of the wall will happen at the beginning of 2016. Riley & Sons will be moving to new facilities in nearby Heywood. Eventually this will lead to the ELR renovating the loco works and then expanding their engineering capability. The ELR website is currently saying that 4472 will be running over the weekends 9/10 & 16/17 Jan, yes 2016!

If you did not know Flying Scotsman returned to steam last night with a 5 mile run around the East Lancs and Bury last night.

News about the locos 'return to the rails' was featured on BBC radio 4s Today programme this morning at 7:45am (08/01/16) with a live broadcast from outside York NRM with a interview given by a spokesman from the NRM about the locos past and restoration although about 3 minutes into the interview the live link went down unexpectedly.

Mickey

Kestrel wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -year.html

Some genuinely useful photographs in that one.

The reporter responsible for the text clearly has very little understanding of the technical stuff concerning the overhaul, but it hasn't stopped him sharing that ignorance with a much wider audience....

On the BBC main news pages today at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35241788

Typically the BBC confuses the locomotive with the eponymous train - whilst supposedly describing the locomotive as it returns to steam and main line service, one photographic caption in the report states 'Flying Scotsman symbolised the age of high-class rail travel with onboard luxuries including a ladies' retiring room, a hairdressing saloon and a "travelling newsman" from WH Smith with the latest papers'. To compensate however, further on it includes attainment as the first steam locomotive to achieve an 'authenticated' 100 mph run - so much for City of Truro then.

Really nice to see the old gal back in action.

What was annoying on the coverage on BBC North West tonight on Friday, was that the reporter referred to the FS's black as "being an undercoat before it's painted apple green later in the year."

There was no mention of the 'black' being its wartime livery.

Asking him to explain why she carries three numbers was way out of his capabilities.

65447

Being a bit pedant. Truro time was not authenticated,it was calculated by hand operated stop watches, which are subject to human error. Whilst not a big fan of 60103 at least it had mecanical proof in the form of a dynamometer car run off a fifth wheel on the track and calibrated.

silverfox wrote:65447

Being a bit pedant. Truro time was not authenticated,it was calculated by hand operated stop watches, which are subject to human error. Whilst not a big fan of 60103 at least it had mecanical proof in the form of a dynamometer car run off a fifth wheel on the track and calibrated.

I do recall reading an article about a study done to ascertain whether CoT could have achived the speed that was claimed. I can't remember the details but do recall that it was decided that the max speed possible would have been 96mph and that it was highly unlikely that it even achieved that. We can all make claims but only those with measured analysis hold water...4472 was the first to achieve 100mph and that will never change.