Page 1 of 1

lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:41 pm
by Jk60113
Good afternoon all,
I am trying to find out information on the sort of formation the grain carrier where likely to have run in through lner days any information would be appreciated.
Thanks james

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:37 pm
by Hatfield Shed
The initial stencilled on instruction 'RETURN TO SILO HULL' would suggest that groups of these wagons left that location for their destinations various; the first of these being Millfield, Sunderland, others Sheffield, Sowerby Bridge, Chesterfield. (From Peter Tatlow's LNER wagons) They may well have been worked back to Hull in groups as well. Post LNER they got around the network more widely, loading UK grain in addition to imported, and going to millers all over the place. Whether that happened in LNER days I don't know, but I would guess that it did; WWII with all the difficulty in maintaining grain imports may well have played a part in this.

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:08 pm
by Bryan
In latter days the Derwent Valley in York supplied grain to Scottish distillery's
Would this traffic have been in existence in LNER days?

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:19 pm
by 53C
Hull King George Dock had a huge import grain Silo, so would assume this would have been one of the the loading point. In the early 1960's grain vessels arrived in huge number from USA grain Port mainly .At times of heavy deliveries vessel would have to remain at Spurn Anchorage awaiting their turn to discharge, this could be days or even weeks.

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:24 pm
by Jk60113
Thank you gents I now have a better understanding of the grain carriers formation and can start to make plans for the OO gauge train that I plan on using on my friends garden railway.
Thanks james

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:11 am
by jwealleans
Has anyone seen pictures of these in traffic under the LNER? The GWR equivalent (the LNER borrowed and copied the drawings for the first batch from the GWR) worked in a block from Birkenhead to (I think) Wrexham, where there were dedicated loading and unloading facilities. I'd assumed the LNER ones would do the same.

That said I have evidence in a train consist from the Pendon archive of a single GWR hopper in a train heading west near Bristol, so they may have wandered solo from time to time.

Grain to maltings and other users would presumably be bagged and carried in ordinary covered vans?

Re: lner bulk grain carrier

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:50 am
by D2100
Bryan wrote:In latter days the Derwent Valley in York supplied grain to Scottish distillery's
Would this traffic have been in existence in LNER days?
That was part of a many faceted arrangement for Distillers, involving many points of origin (most but not all in E Anglia) and various destinations at the Scottish end. Probably more a 1960s thing.
jwealleans wrote:
Grain to maltings and other users would presumably be bagged and carried in ordinary covered vans?
Shooting from the hip, I'd tend to agree with that as well; at the time these vans were new, bulk hauls were not the norm and any regular destination would have to warrant the investment in discharge facilities.