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LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:41 pm
by 1H was 2E
Not all preservation sites like to have wagons - I recently overheard someone from such a site boasting to a member of another such site that "he'd scrapped a load of wagons = got £80 a ton for them!". And those that do don't necessarily restore them correctly - or at all.
However, here's three that seem authentic, on the Nene Valley (who, however, seem to paint wagons bauxite whether they're fitted or not) and Peak Pail.
Wagon details come up if you hover mouse pointer over photo.
Hope these are of interest...

Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:05 pm
by Bryan
We also like to think that we on the NYMR also restore wagons correctly.
There are 2 distinct groups involved in wagons on the NYMR though.
The 2 groups do work closely together and share expertise, spares and equipment all the time.

First we have the Pickering Wagon group who work on the demonstration freight train and do a great job in turning out wagons.

Secondly we have York Area group and its efforts in acquiring and maintaining wagons for the Working fleet on Pw and Civils duties.
However we are more concerned with keeping the wagons working and realise that working wagons will get knocked and damaged at times.
Take a look at some of our efforts in the attached link.
Some of the wagons featured though have now departed from this earth due to Age and practicality in repair.
http://www.yorkareagroup.co.uk/wagons/wagon-photos/

Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:07 pm
by D2100
The Longfit is a nice job, but it's an impostor :) It's one of the very similar BR built Pipes, the recognition features being the unequal distances between the upright strapping and the Morton-type brakegear rather than the LNER 3-hanger AVB. It also has hydraulic buffers as fitted by BR.

Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:44 pm
by 1H was 2E
Pennine MC wrote:The Longfit is a nice job, but it's an impostor :) It's one of the very similar BR built Pipes, the recognition features being the unequal distances between the upright strapping and the Morton-type brakegear rather than the LNER 3-hanger AVB. It also has hydraulic buffers as fitted by BR.
Thanks. They have two of these, numbered 187825 and 187826, which raises some suspicions. Just wonder why wagons interesting in themselves have to be painted to masquerade as something else, particularly as they are such nice restorations.

Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:59 pm
by Bryan
Looks like they are the figment of someones imagination.

187825 Built at Swindon 1952 number 740699 lot No 2329

187826 Built at Wolverton 1955 number 741213 lot No 2712

Source " Preserved Railway stocklist"

Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:58 pm
by Garethp8873
The Severn Valley Railway has two mineral wagons in it's collection. The first one 225641, I think has now been cut up. The last time I saw it was just a underframe and wheels.

The other one the other hand is a unique wagon. 223162 is the last LNER 12T/13T Sundry wagon preserved. When it arrived on the SVR, it was painted into the fictional livery of 'Ynisarwed' for the film 'Carrie's War'. Eventually it was painted into LNER Grey and post 1936 lettering painted on it. By 2006, it was in poor condition and it was cosmetically restored into livery of 'Highley Mining Company' and numbered 162. It's now in the Engine House at Highley were it represents a Private Owner wagon.

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Re: LNER wagons in preservation.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:30 am
by 1H was 2E
It's a pity that the wagon isn't restored to its original livery but presumably it's thought to be unexciting. However, with reference to the Ynisarwed livery previously carried; with one of those amazing coincidences (that only apply to trivia and never to, say, choosing the correct lottery numbers) last Saturday I bought secondhand (for £2- no-one wants books nowadays) Bill Hudson's Along LMS Routes Vol 1 and, idly scanning through, I noticed that the caption to Plate 114 (showing Headstone Lane) refers to an Ynisarwed wagon in the yard. I'm not sure whether you mentioned 'fictional' in this regard because it's not correct for this particular wagon, but this owner did have wagons.
The Severn Valley, in the past, did not have a good record regarding wagon preservation. A GW enthusiast (sorry) I met recently is still upset that BL Longbridge donated a very old bogie bolster (wdn in 1922) which successfully reached Kidderminster on the BR network but was then cut-up on account of 'condition' ; as was a shunt truck newly arrived at Bridgnorth from Kidderminster, even though it belonged to an individual, not the railway.