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Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:01 am
by earlswood nob
Good morning all
In my childhood, I can remember "Ladies Only" compartments on Southern Region. They were at the end of a non-corridor coach and marked by a green sticker in the window.
Did the LNER have the same?

Earlswood nob

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:42 am
by StevieG
Can't say about LNER times, but I'm fairly sure I recall these in the Kings Cross suburban area BR loco-hauled compartment stock (known locally amongst staff as 'block enders'), around the mid-1960s.
Were the green stickers triangular with white lettering?

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:12 am
by Percy Main
I can remember these on ECML trains at Newcastle in the 1960s. I imagine they were reserved on request to the guard or in advance.

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:05 am
by Seagull
They definately had them on the quad-art sets from KX. I have seen a reference from the mid 1930s stating that the ladies only compartment was to be moved from the middle of a coach in a set to the one next to the guards compartment.

Also the Diagram 23 third class coach with the hairdressing saloon had a ladies only compartment.

Alan

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:06 am
by jwealleans
Does anyone know what colours the LNER 'Ladies Only' notices were? I asked the LNERCA some years ago and they didn't seem to know.

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:53 pm
by earlswood nob
G'day all
I found a reference to Ladies only notices being green on the old GNR in 1960's.

The thread is entitled:
The end of the old GN suburban as we knew it 1976

I'm not clever enough to put a link to it.

Earlswood nob

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:38 pm
by Postman Prat
I can remember seeing one (only once) at Newcastle on a South Tyneside set in the early 60's. I regret I can't remember anything about it, other than it was there!

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:03 pm
by 1H was 2E
I can recollect these on the LM., and I too think they were like the non smoking stickers in shape, but green. They disappeared in the mid-70's when complaints were made that the Sex Discrimination Act seem to apply only when men had an advantage of women.
Tangentially, the reason that men's lavatories were called 'Gentlemen' and accessible direct from the [platform, but the facility for women was through another room - the 'Ladies Waiting Room' was because, in Victorian times and later, there was a wish to conceal the fact that, apparently shockingly, the fragrant gender did perform bodily functions.

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:34 pm
by notascoobie
1H was 2E wrote:Tangentially, the reason that men's lavatories were called 'Gentlemen' and accessible direct from the [platform, but the facility for women was through another room - the 'Ladies Waiting Room' was because, in Victorian times and later, there was a wish to conceal the fact that, apparently shockingly, the fragrant gender did perform bodily functions.
Well, you learn something new every day. You'll be telling me they pass wind next :roll:

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:30 am
by Percy Main
There's an interesting article about them here:

http://machorne.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/ladies-only.html

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:34 am
by jwealleans
You'll be telling me they pass wind next
Have you never seen a lady described as 'fragrant'?

Re: Ladies only compartments

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:30 am
by Mickey
StevieG wrote:Can't say about LNER times, but I'm fairly sure I recall these in the Kings Cross suburban area BR loco-hauled compartment stock (known locally amongst staff as 'block enders'), around the mid-1960s.
Were the green stickers triangular with white lettering?
I believe that there were still a few compartments in those 'block ender' sets to been seen in the very early 1970s which still had "Ladies Only" on several compartment windows i vaguely recall.