mick b wrote:
BR Vent ? no idea either way (surprised the LNERCA had left it fitted) hopefully the rest of that roof is original layout ?
When we restored the Buffet Car back in the 1980's we reverted the roof vents back to original spec (including the large vents over the bar area which were modified from BR ones). However in LNER days the kitchen did not have full cooking facilities so did not have a large vent there. As 641 has a cooker in it and requires good ventilation we decided to leave the BR spinning cowl in place over the fan.
I know I regret it every time I walk over the footbridge and see it below!
sawdust wrote:Well at the time we did it, we only had the GA drawing and a couple of interior photos to work from. Now there is a wealth of information available.
Sawdust.
Oh really? Have not found anything specifically relating to the Buffet Cars. Do you know more?
Well I did mean in general, the situation for subsequent projects has been much better. I do believe Wavey obtained some drawings of bottle racks. Didn't Met Camm build some plywood tourist buffets? If so the HMRS will have every drawing for them. Did you know BTW that you can get the roll and page numbers from the Birmingham Library micro films to access the original prints that the HMRS hold?
Having questioned drawings in my earlier post I have spent the time since studying what we do have. As you say the GA for the D167 shows the position of the large vents. There are two additional vents shown which I believe are one for the Stiils boiler (e.g. where the flue exits) and another one over the grill. There is a drawing of these vents detailed in 15129D which are intended for the 1934 Buffer Cars but I am guessing are the same used for the D167s. The Stills vent looks as if it should be offset to match the flue pipe position however the dimension for this offset is not shown.
Interestingly the interior shots of the Kitchen/Pantry that are fitted with Electric Grills do not have this vent, so I would guess it was for Gas fitted vehicles only.
Would anyone notice the difference?
Being practical that is rather than dreaming.
Well I find it interesting, and I'm sure modellers would rather get it right. We might well of done it that way had we had access to information at the time!
Wasn't being critical or anything.
Just wondering if the arrangements work better one way or another and would it be worth the time, effort and expense to alter.
In the full size of course.
The original large vents were replaced later in life. Presumably these were a better design and some benefit gained. Although retro fitting vents to the original design is possible it may not be an improvement in practical terms. As Sawdust stated earlier, that does not mean modellers should not get it right.
