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I'm fully with Kestrel of the matter of riduculous toy-train track with girder rails and diddy crowded sleepers, as he'll note from my rather strident PM .
On the matter of the A4, I couldn't care less what A4 name they give it, so long as it's an original (and preferably correct when combined with the type of tender) rather than some re-name in homage to an allegedly worthy person. The absolutely glorious thing is to see it back in LNER livery AND THE PROPER PRE WAR VALANCES, instead of having yet another loco plodding around in that filthy borrowed Swindon garb and with all of its private parts hanging out, so as to suit a certain generation of current enthusiasts. It's only a very minor shame about the style of 2 when set against the delight of the whole ensemble .
You don't think the 2 was applied by a person who has difficulty in getting the lining straight on black BR tenders do you Simon? (Apologies to others for this baffling comment)
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:You don't think the 2 was applied by a person who has difficulty in getting the lining straight on black BR tenders do you Simon? (Apologies to others for this baffling comment)
*Whistles innocently
She's now featured as the front page cover of Heritage Railway - some great photographs of the transformation can be found a few pages in. The "2" is definitely misshapen as the magazine then compares like for like with photographs of the real 4492 in the same livery. It's a great shame that this one mistake has to crop up, given the number of photographs seemingly available of 4492 (I just typed in the name and number into google, and the first few pics were those photographs I linked to earlier).
That said it is still a stunning transformation, and I am looking forward to seeing her at King's Cross on Saturday.
I'm sorry I added my two penneth now. My May edition of British Railway Modelling dropped through the door this morning and on opening it, I saw an article 'Part 5 of the construction of the BRM 2011 Project Layout - Dudley Heath' and you've guessed, I was blinded by the Peco track, loads of it, complete with the split in the switch blades (is that term correct?) on the points. YUCK!!! thrice YUCK!!!
This looks like a big layout, made for exhibitions but I'm afraid the only people that will be pleased with the end product will be Peco.
I have just opened my latest pack of Gresley society pics.... the top photo is 4492 standing at KX.. undated but in Garter Blue with a Coronation or West Riding set behind..... the 2 is as depicted on Bittern with the long based horizontal line.
Not sure how to upload the pic or the copyright issues.... pic is by L J Burley..
swhite01 wrote:I have just opened my latest pack of Gresley society pics.... the top photo is 4492 standing at KX.. undated but in Garter Blue with a Coronation or West Riding set behind..... the 2 is as depicted on Bittern with the long based horizontal line.
No, it's not.
My apologies for cropping both pics, but the "2" in the upper pic is most definitely misshapen.
Is there some sort of innate desire to look beyond a mistake? I think the finish on Bittern's garter blue paintwork is excellent. But the "2" is definitely wrong, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. If it's a vinyl, get another one done. If not, shoot the painter!
That sort of mistake with the sheer amount of photographs you can find from a simple google search, is a bit off in my opinion, given the amounts of money it has been stated in and around the internet and magazines, it cost to do...
It's not going to change my enjoyment at King's Cross on saturday at all, I think it's a wonderful change, but the numeral does not match that in the prototype's photographs. End, thereof.
EDIT: Or is it?
This Youtube video shows the numeral in question has been fixed!
Nah, it's still duff. Not so much the '2' now, maybe someone has had a go at it, but what happened to the top of the second '4'? And the letterspacing throughout is still too loose. We used to take great pains over letterspacing, there is a 'just right' point.
As I remarked the painter has followed the LNER painting drawing, so it would be down to the person who gave the instruction to check this against historic photographs. I expect they also assumed the front numbers would be the same as the cut steel ones on the cab side, which I have yet to see, but if they have cut them correctly the '2' will match what you have seen on the front and not liked - look at the picture of 4492's cab side in the green book, fig 177.
I've just bought the latest edition (149) of Heritage Railway. We've accepted the 2 looks wrong (although some dispute that) on the front and the error is echoed on the metal numbers on the cabside on page 6.
On the cover of HR, the vertical stroke of the second 4 definitely looks to bend to the right near the top, but is this an optical error owing to the curvature of the body and the angle at which the photograph was taken?
On p7, there is a similar angle view but from the other side and the 4 looks straight.
The article refers to a Bob Timmins hand painting the New Zealand coat of arms that will appear on the cab sides below the numbers. Did he do the 2?
It also states the nameplates are 9ft 2½in long and are made in two pieces. Is that length correct?
As for the comments regarding model railway track, I must admit that I use Peco, mainly because I reckon that the effort to build points us rather beyond me. Also, I collect Tri-Ang models and I would like to run 'em on my trainset.
Any other thoughts?
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
One of the original Dominion of NZ plates is/was at NZ House in London. In 1968 I tried to persuade MRM Co at Kings Cross to make a set of their nameplates in nickel silver. They insisted that they were brass and would not. Fortunately I knew someone at NZ house quite well at that time and as a result ended up in a taxi at the Kings Cross shop with the original chrome nameplate, all 9' of it, in two parts as described. At this point, worried that the weight would damage the counter, a fresh etching was agreed!
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(Apologies to others for this baffling comment)
