60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

This forum is for the discussion of the locomotives, motive power, and rolling stock of the LNER and its constituent companies.

Moderators: 52D, Tom F, Rlangham, Atlantic 3279, Blink Bonny, Saint Johnstoun, richard

Post Reply
34E
NER Y7 0-4-0T
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:54 pm

60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by 34E »

Reading up on 60009 I see that it spent 1990/91 under the name Osprey. Apparently this was due to the tensions caused by apartheid, but as this was the period when it was being dismantled, surely there must be another reason for the change?
FLYINGFISH
NER Y7 0-4-0T
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:03 pm
Location: SOUTH AFRICA

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by FLYINGFISH »

Hi

I most certainly agree with this comment, the process to end all of this had already begun as I know I had just left
the South African Air Force not long before this when this was the talk of the day.

Regards,

FLYINGFISH
FLYINGFISH
User avatar
coachmann
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 487
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:52 pm

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by coachmann »

It ran as 60009 Osprey (pictured near Deganwy) and 60027 Merlin in the autumn of 1991. The latter is seen approaching Llandudno Junction on 1st September complete with the badge of the Admiralty Shore Establishment.
WEB 60009 Merlin.jpg
WEB 60027 Merlin.jpg
Deepol
LNER J39 0-6-0
Posts: 153
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:13 pm
Location: Glasgow

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by Deepol »

Photos of her in 1983 in the Glasgow suburbs at Cardonald heading to Ayr with a ScotRail sponsored excursion and at Springburn on a driver training run 10 years later (!!!) in 1993. Fare paying passengers were carried at a nominal rate.
Attachments
60009UnionOfSouthAfrica-Cardonald1983-Edinburgh-Ayr.jpg
60009UnionOfSouthAfrica-SpringburnOct93-Perth-Springburn-PerthDriverTrainingRuns-009.jpg
User avatar
Saint Johnstoun
LNER A3 4-6-2
Posts: 1236
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:12 pm
Location: 63A - Scotland

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by Saint Johnstoun »

John Cameron himself told me the renaming was political, although by the time it happened as has already been said things had eased somewhat.

9 of course was originally named Osprey but renamed before entering service in 1937.
Deepol
LNER J39 0-6-0
Posts: 153
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:13 pm
Location: Glasgow

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by Deepol »

No.9 taking the inaugural Up Morning Talisman away from Waverley in June 1957. Remarkably 47 miles to the West another loco which is also still with us, 46229 had taken the inaugural Caledonian away from Glasgow Central.
Attachments
60009UnionOfSouthAfrica-depWaverley-inauguralUpTalisman-17June1957.JPG
The Roll of Honour.
The Roll of Honour.
Solario
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 428
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:08 pm
Location: South Cheshire

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by Solario »

Does anyone know if the fireman was a relative of the Haymarket driver Jim Swan?

Jim Swan was the first driver to run non-stop from Waverley to Kings X via Galashiels thus setting the British, if not world, non-stop record of 408 miles. He, of course, would drive the first leg of the run, but that was critical because the bridge washouts (in 1948) near Eyemouth meant that he had to conserve water to get the 92 miles to Lucker troughs instead of the 75 miles by the normal ECML. I guess that record still stands in the UK, probably for any form of traction.
kieranhardy
NBR J36 0-6-0
Posts: 114
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:10 am
Location: Clacton on Sea - Essex
Contact:

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by kieranhardy »

Rather than make a new thread, thought i'd post it in here, someone has posted shots of No. 9 the day before yesterday looking very smart:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/iangater/
Kieran

For my railway photos: http://khardy.zenfolio.com/
User avatar
Blink Bonny
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 3946
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:21 pm
Location: The Midlands
Contact:

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by Blink Bonny »

Ay up!

Nice, very nice. Pity she won't stay like that for long....
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
User avatar
manna
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 3863
Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 12:56 am
Location: All over Australia

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by manna »

G'Day Gents

I wonder how much they want for 60009's old cabside's !!!!

manna
EDGWARE GN, Steam in the Suburbs.
User avatar
60800
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 2316
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:41 pm
Location: N-Lincolnshire
Contact:

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by 60800 »

I was wondering that too Manna :wink:

One would look very nice on my wall for sure :lol:
36C - Based out of 50H and 36F
jamieP
LNER J94 0-6-0ST Austerity
Posts: 38
Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 pm
Contact:

Re: 60009 Union of South Africa/Osprey

Post by jamieP »

manna wrote:G'Day Gents

I wonder how much they want for 60009's old cabside's !!!!

manna
I beleave one of them will be heading to JC house to be put on the wall. Not sure about the other tho. I shall ask next time im up.

On another note no9 had a very good run to Holyhead on Sunday arriving there bang on time and arriving back at Crewe 13 early.

She is today on the THE MERSEY MOORLANDER (http://uksteam.info/tours/t12/t0723a.htm) at Preston now waiting departure time.

Jamie
Post Reply