Locos that didn't make it

[kudu]

Here's my list of LNER post-Grouping locos that didn't survive to Nationalisation:


* Raven A2s 2402-4, built 1924 and withdrawn 1936-7

* A4 4469 built ? and withdrawn 1942

* P1s 2393/4 built 1925 and withdrawn 1945.

I haven't included the P2s or the "Hush-Hush" loco, which all survived after rebuilding.

* 2 of the 4 L2s were also withdrawn before nationalisation, having been built after the Grouping, though not by the LNER.

* There are also 3 experimental locos that ran on the LNER (including one originating in 1910 rebuilt in 1924) and were scrapped by 1948 (precise withdrawal dates not being defined).


Is this short list complete?

Kudu

[52D]

What about other wartime casualties. The B16 at York was pre grouping but did the V1/3 at the Boro survive.

[richard]

Far from it. The Reid Atlantics (C10/C11) would be another addition. The last one was restored for preservation and then scrapped during WW2.

I'd have to look them up but I think most of the locos from the smaller lines (eg. EWYUR) had gone by then.


Richard

[52D]

All the Sentinel railcars bar one didnt make nationalisation.

[kudu]

Thanks for your replies.

The C10/11s were all built before the Grouping, I believe.

The locos acquired after the Grouping, whether from small companies in mid-1923 or from the Met Rly and M&GN in the 1930s were all built before 1923 apart from the L2s I mentioned.

I wasn't aware of a V1/3 being war-damaged, but all 92 survived nationalisation.

I should have stressed I was confining my list to locomotives, otherwise the Sentinel railcars should indeed be added.

Kudu

[Andy W]

There was also a Sentinel loco that didn't make 1948 - No 18 withdrawn in 1946. It would have been renumbered to 8170 if it had survived.

Built 9/30 and wdn 8/46 according to "green" part 9B.

[kudu]

Thanks, Andy - I should have spotted that missing number.

Kudu

[jwealleans]

Are you including the original Grand Parade?

[52D]

How dare you JW dont you know the top lamp bracket survived

[kudu]

Are you including the original Grand Parade?

That's a tricky one, as the new loco was unofficial. It's not mentioned, for instance, in the locomotive section here.

Kudu

[kudu]

Just discovered three more - Worsdell Y7s, introduced 1888. The LNER built 5 in 1923, only 2 of which made it past 1948 (68088/9).

Must keep my eyes peeled!

Kudu

[ArthurK]

And of course there are all of the classes B13 and B14 (NER S & S1). One of the S class survived as a counter pressur loco and received the number 1699. Sent to Rugby testing plant then scrapped a Crewe, a long way from home!

ArthurK

[kudu]

And of course there are all of the classes B13 and B14 (NER S & S1). One of the S class survived as a counter pressur loco and received the number 1699. Sent to Rugby testing plant then scrapped a Crewe, a long way from home!

ArthurK

But I was trying to compile a list of LNER-built locos that didn't make it to nationalisation. On that criterion 1699 gets disqualified twice.

But I'll take this opportunity to correct my earlier list - there were 4, not 2, L2s that never made it. (That was just my carelessness.)

Kudu

[James Brodie]

Sir, The V tanky that the germans bombed (as well as our chip shop!) did get rebuilt and was then sent to work at Leeds-it originally belonged to Gateshead.
Jim Brodie

V1 416...Railways of Teesside. K Hoole Dalesman....ISBN 0 85206 683 X 1982...£3-86.

[52D]

Cheers Jim. ive often wondered what happened to the V1 it seems apart from the A4 at York the LNER were pretty quick to do rebuilds after wartime damage. The WD at Soham was a good example of this back in traffic some 3 weeks after the accident.