Are there any photos of J94s at the time of their acquisition by the LNER and prior to gaining BR insignia?
What I'm basically after is an indication of whether the saddle tank actually bore the letters LNER in full or had the wartime NE, and whether the hoppers were fitted on the bunkers before or after nationalisation
Early J94s
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Early J94s
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Re: Early J94s
All of the photographs of the J94's I have seen in LNER livery have LNER in full on the saddletank.
Re: Early J94s
LNER in unshaded yellow with wrong gills sans.
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Re: Early J94s
Thanks bothCVR1865 wrote:LNER in unshaded yellow with wrong gills sans.
"wrong" Gill Sans???
Stuart
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Re: Early J94s
When the LNER started using Gill sans on its Locos (not sure about notices) they curled over the top of the numbers 6 and 9 too much, this was corrected under BR although there were a few BR numbers applied on loco sides and smokebox ends with the incorrect numerals.
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Re: Early J94s
built up bunkers were built for locos in specific areas and another alteration was in the mid 50s the fitting of a centre footstep. At Newport in 1952 we had a mix of two step and three step engines which resulted in drivers coming off the footplate a bit quicker than they wanted to! Some LNERs were a smallish size but with shading.
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Re: Early J94s
Quite a few austerities have had the extra footstep and bunker mods to make them look like real J94s.
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Re: Early J94s
Thanks for that, and did those "specific areas" include Tyneside?James Brodie wrote:built up bunkers were built for locos in specific areas and another alteration was in the mid 50s the fitting of a centre footstep. At Newport in 1952 we had a mix of two step and three step engines which resulted in drivers coming off the footplate a bit quicker than they wanted to! Some LNERs were a smallish size but with shading.
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Stuart
A fool is a person who makes false conclusions from right principles; whereas a madman, on the contrary, draws right conclusions from wrong principles [Encyclopedia Britannica 1797]
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Re: Early J94s
Today on Britarch
Not a J94 but is it close enough?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/gazette-co ... -27633502/
Not a J94 but is it close enough?
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/gazette-co ... -27633502/
Re: Early J94s
Of the 75 J94's 45 were sent to ex NER Depots ; the other 30 were sent to the ex GCR depots at Gorton and Immingham.
Under BR all the locos were fitted with an extra footstep half way along the footplate. All the Gorton and Immingham locos
were fitted with extended bunkers but only 27 of the locos based at ex NER sheds were so fitted. The J94's not fitted with
extended bunkers were : 68017/19/21/24/29/31/32/36/38/40/41/42/43/44/46/58/59/61, however, 68019 and 68042 were fitted
with extended bunkers much later to local requirements.
Tyneside had J94's allocated at Blaydon, Tyne Dock and Heaton, Blaydon usually had 4 or 5 locos allocated at any one time.
Under BR all the locos were fitted with an extra footstep half way along the footplate. All the Gorton and Immingham locos
were fitted with extended bunkers but only 27 of the locos based at ex NER sheds were so fitted. The J94's not fitted with
extended bunkers were : 68017/19/21/24/29/31/32/36/38/40/41/42/43/44/46/58/59/61, however, 68019 and 68042 were fitted
with extended bunkers much later to local requirements.
Tyneside had J94's allocated at Blaydon, Tyne Dock and Heaton, Blaydon usually had 4 or 5 locos allocated at any one time.
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Re: Early J94s
Very helpful that - and nice to get confirmation that Hornby's 68035 which spent all its working life at Blaydon had an extended bunker, but after LNER days.
Stuart
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