1972??

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:14 pm

Anyone know anything about this photo, which engine it is?

the text says;

"The Capitals Limited" train, hauled by an A4 class 4-6-2 locomotive number 60017 "Silver Fox" at King's Cross station, 30 June 1972. The last main British Railways main line steam trains ran in 1968, but this special was operated four years later as a publicity stunt for the BBC and Evening News. The "Capitals Limited" train was a non stop summertime service from London to Edinburgh. It had been running since 1949. The train had been hauled by A4 locomotives until 1962, when they were replaced by diesel engines.

Silver Fox...in 1972???

Post by **richard** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:40 pm

It does look like there's a silver fox on the side of the boiler. Can you make out the number any better in the picture?

So a bad date?
(or less likely, a different A4 was changed to look like Silver Fox?)

Richard

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:35 pm

The number looks like it ends in a 7 and so the number was also changed 60017

Silver Fox was gone in 1963, but one Fox is in the NRM, don't know if they have the other though, and they do have the one name plate too

Hmmm???

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:51 am

To me that photo looks early 1950's. The loco has an early crest and the front Thompson coach looks to be in brown livery. Where there many Thompons left in 1972? I dont think so. As far as I know the only A4's in working order at that time where Bittern maybe and Sir Nigel Gresley.Gresley wasin LNER blue and Bitternin Green

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:52 am

Also I have a feeling that by 72 steam had been banned from BR

Muzza · Post by **Muzza** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:28 am

Wasn't Bittern in LNER blue in the early 70's (as No. 19)?

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:24 am

It might have been in blue but at some point it was still in green as I have seen it on a Marsden Rail Video. Just got the latest Model Rail apparently a thompson coach lasted until at least 1978 in rail blue. I still thinkthe caption date is wrong

52A · Post by **52A** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:03 pm

I agree the date looks like a typo. Look at the man standing on the left, he doesn't look 70s either. Can anyone say when KX was resignalled? That is one of the old boxes.

60114 · Post by **60114** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:15 pm

Was late 60s or 70's was it not?

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:38 am

I believe it was early 70's in readyness for electrification of the local lines. I have some film of the box being demolished somewhere

60114 · Post by **60114** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:00 am

then personally i would put the picture in about 50's given the clean rolling stock and Silver Fox

though dont quote me on that cause i was born in 85

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:03 pm

I'd say 50's also, look at the crest on the tender....

CVR1865 · Post by **CVR1865** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:59 pm

and so the plot thickens. i have found additional photo.

http://www.ingenious.org.uk/See/Transpo ... wby=images

don't just click the link, copy and paste it.