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Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:00 pm
by richard
I was planning to have a series of maps for the new Constituent Company section. Originally I planned to use the LNER network map (see the section's index) but shade each territory. It quickly became apparent that this would be difficult due to overlaps, shared lines, etc. I thought about colouring the individual lines, but I would need eight clear colours and the map is large with fine lines.
So instead, I have chosen to make eight small maps for each company, and colour the lines for each respective company in red. I've started with the GNSR:
http://www.lner.info/co/GNSR/index.shtml
Thoughts?
Quality variations are partly due to the map being scanned.
I intend to have a 'thumbnail' for each company index. Click the thumbnail to get the larger image.
Richard
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:27 am
by Jingling Geordie
Watto Richard,
I'm just wandering light engine around this site's minor branch lines and finding it a very rewarding link.
Have you done anything regarding the Great Eastern or the NBR?
I'm the proud owner of a map of BR's Eastern Region published in 1950 by their Surveyors Dept (50.LPY.II). It's in its original framing but unfortunately is glass fronted. Questions
1) Would this be of interest to this web-site's members?
2) I don't want to dismember the frame so how can one photo through glass without getting a reflection?
421
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:46 pm
by chaz harrison
Jingling Geordie wrote:how can one photo through glass without getting a reflection?
a) switch off the flash on the camera
b) light the original from both sides - place the lights (anglepoises etc) so that the illumination hits the subject at 45 degrees
c) try a polarising filter - light reflected from glass is polarised and can be stopped - the filter is rotated to get the desired effect - only snag, these can expensive
hope that's some help
Chaz
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:57 pm
by Jingling Geordie
Watto Chaz,
Very helpfull, I'll have to sweet talk one of my local railway club's "photographers" as it beyond a point and click Scottie,
421
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:09 pm
by richard
Thanks for the offer. It isn't going to be completely LNER accurate, but it might be useful as a "at the end of the LNER". where should it go? I guess the GER section makes some sense, although it is going to be even less-GER accurate.
Glass is going to pose a problem. Also, ideally you want to photograph perpendicular to the map so avoid distortion. That could be difficult - I've know I've had trouble doing that when I've been asked to photograph quilts that are laid flat!
I would choose scanning if possible but you'll probably have to take it out of the frame.
I didn't think polarisers were too pricey - more than a normal filter but a lot less than a lens. I think the one I use on my 35-105mm lens was about GBP10 in the early 90s. It is worth it just for landscape photos.
Richard
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:32 pm
by 52D
Why dont you use the chance to slip in the constituents heraldic devices at the same time. I woul have started with the NER little or no overlapping lines.
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:11 pm
by richard
I could have a look again. I remember that the images had differing backgrounds/etc.
Richard
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:08 pm
by 2562
Excellent format Richard ! Very informative
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Andy
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:15 am
by lnernut
Richard,
I actually started a similar project some years ago trying to use google earth maps as a basis. I was going further back trying to trace all the original lines from the original constituent companies.
I had a map of the NER area and had tried different colours for the original Blyth & Tyne, the Hull & Selby, the Leeds & Selby, the original York & North Midland, the York & North Midland, the Leeds Northern etc.
I recently discovered printed copies at the bottom of a drawer and I am currently searching for the electronic copies.
I had done the NER area, the NBR, the GER and GNSR. I will try to sort them out a little more clearly and post them at some point.
I have the completed (I think) GNSR one.
Martin
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:56 pm
by richard
Martin: Did you draw these on the bitmap, or as actual KML data files for annotating the map?
As web maps are one of my specialities, if you have the data files, I think I could make it more readable. Eg. switchable layers and possibly colours as well.
Otherwise, I'll have a closer look when I get back. i suspect the road maps will be clearer than satellite maps; and I would need to look at the Google EULA - they are sticklers for copyright/etc (although many would argue that they treat other peoples' copyright in a rather blase way).
Richard
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:17 pm
by ajax103
Jingling Geordie wrote:Watto Richard,
I'm just wandering light engine around this site's minor branch lines and finding it a very rewarding link.
Have you done anything regarding the Great Eastern or the NBR?
I'm the proud owner of a map of BR's Eastern Region published in 1950 by their Surveyors Dept (50.LPY.II). It's in its original framing but unfortunately is glass fronted. Questions
1) Would this be of interest to this web-site's members?
2) I don't want to dismember the frame so how can one photo through glass without getting a reflection?
421
If you ever are successful, I would love to see the end result,
Re: Constituent Company Maps
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:21 am
by lnernut
Richard,
I hand drew the lines in on the BMP file. Took considerable time, and not how I would do it if I was going to start again.
It was really just an aid to see where all the lines went and which companies were taken over by the relevent pregrouping company. I have never published the maps on my website and was not really planning to. I might get back to it at some stage but right now have I too much on.
Martin