Hull and Barnsley Cine Film

[EASTYORKYHAR]

I am trying to trace any old cine film of the Hull to Barnsley railway, particularly the East Yorkshire end of it. Having tried unsuccessfully i have now discovered this wonderfull website and would be so grateful of any assistance in finding anything. Probably one of the most scenic railways that was sadly ripped up before i was born. An old boy told me as a young train spotter sitting on Everthorpe road bridge and seeing what must have been a diverted A4 pass underneath him... man i sometimes wish i was old haha. My father can remember a derailment at South Cave station and winessing a big railed steam crane attempting to lift the train back on, priceless images i wish i could have seen. Cheers Har.

[Tranby1]

Try the Hull and Barnsley Stock Fund - they are aware of unpublished film showing the line around Hull.

[Solario]

An old boy told me as a young train spotter sitting on Everthorpe road bridge and seeing what must have been a diverted A4 pass underneath him

Whilst nothing is impossible, I would take that tale with a large pinch of salt. He may have been mixing it up with another situation. Can anyone out there confirm an A4, or indeed any other Pacific on the H&B? It was not a diversion route but I suppose an A4 could have made its way from Hemsworth Junction on the Leeds Doncaster line. I have not even heard of Pacifics on rail tours on the H&B. Pacifics generally were not that common in Hull ( I don't count 4-6-2 tank engines as Pacifics).

[50C]

Sometimes 50B A3's on Hull-Liverpool trains as far as Leeds.

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[ten ten]

Neville Hill A3s were regular visitors to Botanic about 8.30 am in the mid-late fifties,ca 1962 there was an afternoon A3 working into Paragon,presumably from Leeds.To this can be added overnight express freights,with pacifics(including A4s) rumoured at Dairycoates.As to the H and B,in the time I lived at Willerby,within sight of the line,from 1950-closure, I never saw or heard of a pacific on the line,other than the tanks.

[ten ten]

To add to my post above- is it possible Everthorpe and Enthorpe on the Selby-Driffield line been confused, the latter saw all sorts of motive power on the holiday extras to Brid and Filey.

[Solario]

Neville Hill A3s were regular visitors to Botanic about 8.30 am in the mid-late fifties,ca 1962 there was an afternoon A3 working into Paragon,presumably from Leeds.To this can be added overnight express freights,with pacifics(including A4s) rumoured at Dairycoates.As to the H and B,in the time I lived at Willerby,within sight of the line,from 1950-closure, I never saw or heard of a pacific on the line,other than the tanks.

Yes, I saw at least 2 A3s in Paragon on Leeds/Liverpool trains in the late '50s, 60086 was one of them and I also saw 60038 twice through Cottingham on excursions to the coast, but nevertheless Pacifics were not really common and the point of the post relates to the H&B and I really doubt whether one would have found its way on to that line as all of the through traffic was goods, mostly heavy (coal). Through passenger services ceased in 1932.
A thought has occurred to me, sadly a fair number of Pacifics would have been hauled dead on Hull local H&B lines on their way to one of Albert Draper's scrap yards both of which were on H&B territory.

[ten ten]

Another possible source for films etc on the H and B would be Mick Nicholson who is on the RMweb.A digression from the main topic of films/pacifics on the H and B main line.In the fifties heavy freight until almost the end was almost totally WDs,but there was a fairly regular working of an 8F ca 8am though Willerby towards Springhead.On the South Howden push pulls, latterly G5s,there were short lived trials of Fowler 2 6 2 tanks,and later a three car railbus set,( AC?),looked like rectangular boxes on wheels,I think aluminium grey with red stripe.

[EASTYORKYHAR]

Thanks all for your input and info.

[md644]

Not quite what you're looking for, but on the Marsden Rail Hull DVD (forget the number, sorry!), I think there's some colour film of Eppleworth Viaduct and Little Weighton station taken just after closure (mid 1960s).....

[bricam5]

Just to throw in my two pennyworth, in the six years I fired at Botanic Gardens, I never saw a pacific on the H&B line.
Obviously as a mostly passenger shed, we only went as far as South Howden so beyond that I have no knowledge.
Plenty of Springhead ex WD locos on the coal runs.
The biggest loco I have been on on that line from Hull was an old D20 ( Class R ) on an officers special for tunnel and bridge inspection.

[50C]

In the September of 1956 I started attending Read Grammer school in the village of Drax on the Selby-Goole line.Just before we entered Drax station the single line passed over the H&B line.In years gone by there were two stations in Drax,Drax Hales and Long Drax,which was on the H&B.Long Drax station was closed in 1932 and at some later stage Drax Hales was renamed Drax.
The school was about 1.5 miles from the station and to the rear of it was a rugby pitch,two fields and then the H&B.The line was far enough away to see the top half the locos above the hedges but not their numbers.Freight trains were few and far between by then and always coal traffic in the hands of 53C WD's although we did see an LMS loco on a short pick-up, which we were convinced was a jubilee!, heading towards Hull.
Our cross country and rugby training runs took us under the H&B where the line crossed the river Ouse on a swing bridge similar in design to the Naburn and Selby bridges on the ECML but much higher above the river and also considerably longer.There were some large ponds next to the track which had been excavated to build the embankment up to the bridge as the area around Drax is very flat.In the severe winter of 1962/3 the ponds were used for a school skating competition
When the line closed to freight in 1958 the WD's were transfered to 53A and started making regular appearances through Selby.In the mid 50's, on saturday afternoons, we used to cycle to Carlton the next station west from Long Drax, to catch double headed 53C 12xxx diesel shunters heading west for sunday engineering work-diesel shunters were rarely seen in those days.This section of track at Carlton is still used today for coal traffic into Drax power station which was built very close to my old school.


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[EASTYORKYHAR]

I can update my earlier posting with additional information..Speaking again to my "young trainspotter" friend who saw the A4 running the Hull to Barnsley line. He told me that during war time 1939-1945 not after, during this period due to the demand for coal and Hull being a major coal port, any engine( of which he saw many unusual line visitors during this period) which could be rosted to haul coal trains would be used. He tells me that the A4 he saw was hauling a coal train. I have no reason to doubt this and it would be interesting to hear anyone elses comments and thoughts.

[Solario]

What a great sighting!

It would be interesting to pass on to the H&B experts in the NERA. A shame that their website does not have a forum. I expect that to make this official, there would have to be some other authentication.

[EASTYORKYHAR]

A4 "Bittern"? On Freight/Coal Duties Hessle

Found this photo. Although not H&B is not far away at Hessle nr Hull. Proving A4's where on coal/freight running